Note: Don’t ya hate it when you think of a post title that is informative and humorous, then you plug it into the google and find out it’s not as unique as you had hoped? You betcha! wink, wink. Oh well, I’m sticking with it.
It might not seem like it, but I really have nothing much against Sarah Palin as person. She’s a real person with real feelings. I get that.
My only real beef with her is that she is a liar. I don’t care if she has a different point of view than my own. That is actually part of what makes this country great. But using lies to manipulate and deceive is wrong. If you can’t sell with the truth then you need to re-evaluate what you are selling.
The web site PolitiFact.com has a page they call the “Sarah Palin file.” It is a page where they assess the truthfulness of statements made by Palin. For a figure so prominent on the national stage the lack of honesty is quite alarming.
Then today I found this on the Wall Street Journal web site. The following tidbit is made even more impressive when you consider that the WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch:
It is her mastery of the lament that explained former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s appeal last year, and now her knack for self-pity is on full display in her book, “Going Rogue.” This is the memoir as prolonged, keening wail, larded with petty vindictiveness. With an impressive attention to detail, Ms. Palin settles every score, answers every criticism; locates a scapegoat for every foul-up, and fastens an insult on every critic, down to the last obscure Palin-doubter back in Alaska.
When it comes to politicians, the TRUTH is of paramount importance, at least to me. Just tell me the truth. That’s all I ask. If you stick with the truth you have a chance of getting me to see your point. Without truth I’ve got absolutely no use for you. In the final analysis, Palin is nothing more than a snake oil salesperson, and we have far, far too many of those these days.
Sarah, this one’s for you:
I don’t want some pretty face to tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
Shouts from the Abyss 
I think this bit from Overheard in the Newsroom pretty much sums up my feelings about Sarah Palin:
Reporter: “Are you going to read Sarah Palin’s biography? Or would you rather read Tucker Max?”
City Editor: “Tucker Max only makes me want to gouge out my eyes. Sarah Palin makes me want to gouge out my uterus.”
http://overheardinthenewsroom.com/2009/11/16/2172/
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I don’t have anything against her as a person, either.
That said – – I’m not sure what politician is honest? One point or another, they all seem to be caught in some sort of lie. It is so depressing.
Anyway!
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That’s a good point and it certainly has a lot of validity. I can grok a statement like that.
On the other hand, I have a problem with someone who seemingly goes way out of their way to say something as ridiculous as “day is night” or whatnot, and even seems to do it in a vicious partisan sort of way. In a nutshell, to me, that is the Palin problem.
There is no way that her statements regarding “death panels” can be reconciled with what is true. It isn’t simply a difference of opinion. It’s a complete falsehood. That’s where she loses me.
If she knows it is false and still repeats it, she is crass and manipulative. If she really thinks what she’s saying is true, then she’s merely delusional. I’m beginning to think it’s some of the former and more of the latter.
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I don’t think I disagree on any level.
And you used the word grok. Twenty points for you, my friend!
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I heard the NPR piece on her this morning. They had all these women on from Michigan who adore her and think she would be the perfect president.!?
I am totally with Shoutabyss on it is really more of the latter…..
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Grokking is. But I don’t want to share water with Palin.
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Well we all know how honest al-Thuggy is. Or his cronies in congress. Or about those ACORN goons he trained.
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So the rebuttal against Sarah Palin being a liar is, “I know you are, but what am I?” You’ve done nothing to disprove the statement.
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Pointing out the hypocrisy. You drones could care less about all the lies al-Thuggy and his cronies tell but for some odd reason, you drones are obsessed with some private citizen and her life. Very odd and disturbing.
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Yeah, and she smells of mushy peas. And she stole my dinner money. She killed Bambi…
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LOL! You obviously know her better than I do. 🙂
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“When it comes to politicians, the TRUTH is of paramount importance, at least to me. Just tell me the truth.”
She isnt a politician. Just wanted to point out that lie. 🙂
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Politicians and truth in the same sentence? Surely some mistake.
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I know she has a higher favorable rating than al-Thuggy. 🙂
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And that refutes a statement about Palin’s lack of honesty in what way?
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That even with the jihad against her by the MSM and how the MSM props up al-Thuggy, she is still held more favorably. Just imagine if the MSM was reputable. 🙂
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Elric, you can’t even parse text apparently. I said truth from politicians is very important to me. How you take from that I “could care less” about lies from other politicians baffles me. That is a solid example of how you leap to assumptions. You assume hypocrisy. That doesn’t automatically make it true.
Curious, what lie from Obama would you equate as equal in crassness and magnitude as Palin’s “death panels” sound bite?
Palin a private citizen? Ha! How many private citizens do you know flit around the country making speeches, authoring political books, and issuing endorsements of political candidates? Perhaps calling her a “politician” since she resigned her office and isn’t currently seeking office is technically incorrect. But claiming she isn’t a politician is putting too fine a point on it. It’s not a lie. It’s a valid opinion.
Another difference between you and me? I don’t call you names for who you choose to politically support. I don’t assume you are an idiot because you have different beliefs that me. That is what I find sad, odd and disturbing.
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What part of “She isnt a politician did you not understand”?
“Curious, what lie from Obama would you equate as equal in crassness and magnitude as Palin’s “death panels” sound bite?”
Well besides that its true? Well how about ummm stating in 2006 KSM would get a full military trial? Campaigned during the elections that we needed more troops and hasnt done crap about it for a year. His various excuses for Wright. He wouldnt raise taxes on the middle class. Shall I go on?
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Jihad against Palin? Is this person serious? I am astonished to find I share a planet with someone who feels Palin has been the victim of a Jihad. I must reassess every single belief I have. Perhaps Jesus was a stonemason, not a carpenter? Perhaps the modern Star Wars films ARE good after all? Perhaps some folk should lighten up and take other people’s blogs in the spirit of humour in which they are posted?
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If she is a “politician” right now is very much a matter of opinion. You call her a “private citizen.” I call bullshiat on that. If you truly believe she is a private citizen then you are delusional. I already conceded she’s not a full blown actively campaigning “politician.” I’m just pointing out that your argument for defending her on that basis is splitting some very fine hairs. Not much validity to that position in my humble opinion.
As far as your Obama point, I would merely state that failing to follow through on a campaign promise is different than deliberately lying to manipulate and deceive. Many a politician has meant what they said at the moment they said it and then revised their opinions later on. George Bush and George W. Bush both come to mind in that department.
As it happens, politicians keeping their promises is very important to me. But that’s another discussion and has nothing to do with whether or not Palin is lying. Once against you’ve tried to change the subject and distract.
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Until Pali holds a public office, she is a private citizen. But we cant let that get in the way of the obsession people have of her. Even if she lies, so what? Why do you care? If you really cared, you would be focused on congress lying about all this legislation they are ramming down our thoughts. So why do you care?
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This post on this blog just proves my point. Worried about some book by a private citizen “lying” in a book.instead of focusing on actual elected politicians that lie to the people everyday. Did the AP have 11 staff members dig through al-Thuggy’s books to fact check? Did CNN ever do a fact check on a SNL skit that involved Palin or Bush? Please.
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OK, one more reply for you. 🙂 Lying in a book? Who said that was my beef? My beef is the lie itself. The lie she repeats when interviewed, in speeches, on her blog, Facebook and Twitter, and pretty much everywhere else she goes. It’s not about the book. It is about the lie. And not once have you ever addressed that.
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Again, why do you care? Why her? Why not any other author? Why the obsession with her?
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Elric, thank you very much for your interest in my blog. I appreciate it. Have a great day!
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BTW, the “she’s a private citizen not a politician” argument has got to be one of the weakest I’ve ever heard. I can’t believe you’d hang your hat on something that lame.
The only way to refute “Sarah Palin is a liar” is to demonstrate that what she’s saying isn’t a lie. I note with some interest you opt to avoid that strategy at all costs. 🙂
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Opts out of that one because doesn’t have enough lies, damn lies or statistics to do so, I suspect. Oh so bitchy of me, I must be in danger of taking this all too seriously as well then. perhaps I shall retrun to my previous position – it’s a humorous comment, lighten the heck up!
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Why her? Surely even you can see the difference between Palin and say, my neighbor in the house next door. The difference is one of celebrity and influence. My neighbors lies can’t do the same damage that Palin’s can.
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Still didnt answer why are you focus on her. Cant find a real politician to focus on?
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“BTW, the “she’s a private citizen not a politician” argument has got to be one of the weakest I’ve ever heard. I can’t believe you’d hang your hat on something that lame.”
Its not lame because she isnt. You are just obsessed with her and cant just admit it.
And why do you care? She doesnt hold political office. Why not focus on someone who affects policy? Oh wait, we cant do that. Lets focus on Palin.
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Elric, get well soon. Might be time for a change of medication.
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Great rebuttal LOL
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Why the “obsession” with Palin? That’s your word, not mine. But the answer is simple and should be self-evident. I don’t like the way she fucking lying. Go figure. 🙂
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“I don’t like the way she fucking lying.”
But you like how congress lies to you? Got it.
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Jesus. I think you are on a Jihad against the truth. I never said anything about liking lies in Congress. That’s just making shit up, which of course, makes you a liar as well.
I hereby dub you, “Troll.”
Try to respond on point and I’ll consider dropping that appellation. Push this shit too much farther and I’ll delete your ass. That’s what you get for pissing in my sandbox.
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Well since you are focus on some private citizen and not calling out elected leaders setting policy what would you call it? And you never did say why you are so focused on her.
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‘Great rebuttal’ says the guy who confuses his own opinion with authenticated fact.
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Awesome rebuttal Steve
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Why bother rebutting someone whose opinions are reactionary and fantastically dull? Besides, when have any of your comments here been actual rebuttals as opposed to further examples of blinkered Neocon rhetoric?
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Ah ohhhh, he used the “neocon” word. LOL
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I calls it as I sees it. Are you going to offer me a coherent and detailed account of why my use of the word fails to describe your opinions? Or are you just going to hide behind off-point suppositions some more?
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Im glad you call it as you see it. Good for you.
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That’ll be a ‘No’, then. Go play with some other JIhadists and while you’re at it, please look up the word ‘humorous’ in your dictionary. You know, the word that appears in the note that prefaces this blog posting. The word you’re apparently incapable of interacting with.
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Im not a jihadist so why would I play with other jihadists? That makes no sense Steve. 🙂
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Actually it does make sense if you bother to read the responses to your febrile ranting. Oh and by the way, adding little smileys or the affixative ‘LOL’ does not prove you have a sense of humour. It proves you are a childish buffoon who is clearly upset that Sarah Palin has been slandered because you love jerking off over her. Oh damn, and I swore not to stoop to your level.
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Well you at least admit its slander. Thanks for agreeing Steve.
“Oh damn, and I swore not to stoop to your level.”
I guess that makes you a liar.
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Can’t see how anyone with an ounce of intelligence could misconstrue my last statement as being indicative of having lied. I’m assuming you cannot actually understand the words of more than one syllable in my comments and that you are therefore making up their meaning in your own mind rather than trouble yourself with engaging with someone else’s point of view. Are you writing this with crayons?
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I am glad you agreed Palin is being slandered. We have some common ground it seems.
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I’m glad you agree you’re a childish nincompoop. We have absolutely no common ground whatsoever. And there was me mistaking you for a human person with a brain and everything.
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And how could I write this in crayons? That makes no sense either. Perhaps its you who needs to take your medication.
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Ah you need to have a mental age of over three to work out that I was of course bieng sarcastic and accusing you of being a retard. Did you miss that? Guess that must prove my point then.
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I never agreed to that. Its you with all the name calling. I guess you cant help it. I pity you, really.
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Oh please do pity me. I need all the pity I can get from racist fools. I really do. All my politically well-informed friends are just so unsympathetic. I think I shall blame minority groups and other people’s religions for all the world’s ills in future and be as enlightened and deliriously happy as you seem to be. Can I borrow your crayons?
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Wow, now I am a racist? LOL You are really grasping at straws now.
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Really? I am not psychic. I just gaged your mentality and took it as you were serious. If you were being sarcastic, my apologies.
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Grasping at straws? Or I’ve looked at your website.
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I knew it wouldnt take long for the race card to be pulled out.
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I wasnt aware “looking” was proof of anything.
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Anyway, must dash,. There’s a wall I must go and smash my head against. No wait, isn’t that what I’ve just been doing?
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Keep up with that old chap.
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Oh and ShoutingAbyss – I appear to have smeared my vitriol across your blog. Apologies for that but this guy really is a dickwad. I’ll come back when his misinformed political masturbation bugs me slightly less.
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Don’t worry, my friend. I got your back. 🙂
Don’t feed the trolls.
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You should be sorry.
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Not a troll, he was the angry one with all the name calling
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What? Cant back up your accusation of me being a racist? Of course not, thats why you “dashed”.
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I guess that makes you a liar Steve. 🙂
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LIAR…but hey is just an elected official seeking to control your life. Who cares, right?
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